Hi, thank you for the reply. Hello BMW technician, I know there is a lawsuit going on with N20 timing chain in NJ District Court 2D56 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Position not reached I had 2014 328i and having no issue yet so far,but im concern about the timing chain since my car is on the list of having problems with the timing chain,i checked the vin number to see if there is a recall for that and did not see anything,what should i do to double check ?should i go to dealership and just tell them about this bulleti? My car have no error code, product 4/2012 with no tune. To delete the three faults actually required deleting the faults two times. Was it coincidental and maybe the bits of trash in the both VANOS spool valves cleared at the exact same time? Im thinking the dealership is just not interested in fixing it. Everything else works perfectly at 176,000km. The timing chain & guides are bathed in engine oil, not fuel. Thats a good possibility thats the timing chain issue. Risking my good fortune I had to run the VANOS function test again. Cleaned spark plugs and as the mileage was 65000 so I changed the timing chain with a TOOL also. F25 There were no faults. Everything works, radio, windows, Locks. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Andrea, I just found your blog looking for answers for my used/ new to me 2013 328i with N20 engine. 130104 VANOS, intake, control fault, camshaft jammed Thank You very much for the reply !! for this problem there is a software update available. The 7 years/70000 miles extended limited warranty follows the VIN, so if the 2015 X3 is on the list, the N20/N26 engine will be covered. bimmerfest.com is an independent BMW enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. Question,,,,,why did we replace the DME with a used one,,,that might be a problem,,,,a used DME can not be used because it is programmed and encoded to a different car,,,,what is wrong with your DME? Or maybe the fuel that would be implicated! If you are using a Main labor code for N20 and N26 Engine: Various VANOS System Faults Stored in DME MODEL E84 E89 F10 F25 F30 F31 F34 . E84 and E89: 131808 Intermittent Exhaust variable camshaft timing control (VANOS) cost start position not reached. check got vanos dtc come to relies i switch the cam gears when i install them so i correct it after veh cranks but no start check timming over like 3 time it good. CenterNet / Aftersales Portal / Service / Workshop Technology / Vehicle Programming. but after 3-4 minutes these fault codes with a message -Drivetrain problem comes in the display. These are all pretty standard specs for most modern BMW engines. Technical Service with the following integration levels: The improved DME software was introduced . Do u recommend changing the tensioner as preventive maintenance? Thank you again. Is there a way to test this? My question is, when I remove the central valve, will the timing chain or sprockets will slip their position? Seems like the locking pins are stuck. The I-level is newer than the I-level specified in SI B12 15 13. Most auto repairs shops charge between $75 and $150 per hour. 130304 Vanos exhaust control fault camshaft jammed F30 N20 drivetrain malfunction after timing chain replacement at dealership : BmwTech 2 Posted by 2 years ago F30 N20 drivetrain malfunction after timing chain replacement at dealership Hey guys, I have a 2014 F30 with the N20 motor and the only mods are the dinan stage 3 tune and a dinan fmic. my mechanic had replaced the both the vanos solonoids and cleared the faults. I got a few drivetrain malfunctions last week: 131501 vanos, intake, cold start; not adjustable 120408 reduced power mode. I know I might be looking at replacing Vanos Actuator, central valve or the whole vanos unit. The BMW N20, introduced in 2011, was the first four-cylinder BMW engine to be sold in the North American market in over a decade. To determine if any applicable Federal, State or BMW Emissions Warranty coverage applies prior Table 2 - Engine N20 and N26 Fault codes Model ISTA/P version / Target Integration Level All (see attachment) I12 2.53.0 / I001-14-07-500 or higher Fault codes Model ISTA/P version / Target Integration Level All (see attachment) except faults 2D55 or 131501 E84, E89 2.53.0 / E89X-14-07-500 or higher F10 2.53.2 / F010-14-07-503 or higher F15 . Hello there. This will likely be the first and last BMW I will ever own. Thanks from Sweden,,,,I never noticed that,,,,I would think the f31 RW would also be affected,,,,nobody understands this list from BMW there are a lot of car that are not listed with the same engines,,,BMW never told us why only these vehicles are listed on the bulletin. Tried test with ista for vanos solenoid test removed solenoid stiff does not move when activated. https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014 Your email address will not be published. The head mechanics at BMW Santa Monica have no idea either. N20 and N26 Engine: Various VANOS System Faults Stored in DME It has 115k miles on it so I am worried about the timing chain problem, but It was manufactured in 10/2011 which is before the listed date here (06/2012). You are correct almost all the problem are in the States,,,all the engines are built in the same plant,,,there is a good chance that the fuel is the cause of these problems,,,,yes it is a good thing your car is not on the list. I dont know if failing VANOS system should give any data to computer and should show somekind bad data or shouldnt show anything. 01-18-2020, 01:07 PM #2 mandd Autobahn East Join Date Yes you have a 2015 you have a better chance of no timing chain issues. Code 130104 Vanos intake control fault camshaft stuck 133E10 -permanent valvetronic system: deactivated, adjustment fault too frequent When engine starts cam shaft on exhaust goes all the way to the end. The warrantee was in place until 2019. Or will my timing chain, etc. or still the same problem. If so, can I buy the warranty for the used car now? 2013 BMW X1 E84 WITH N2O MOTOR 11400ML The connector may have a removable cover. Did they use a different timing chain guide before 06/2012 ? Also camshaft sensors also does not give any data to DME. The crank pin to hold at TDC goes through the tiny hole pointing to the rear of the car by the catalytic converter, the only thing this would be able to hold onto would be the flex plate/flywheel. I have 13 bmw 335i xdrive with a vsrf catless downpipe, afe intake, Remus exhaust, jb4 on map 2 and jb4 connect kit. Yes that crack in the timing chain guide should be enough to replace the timing chain and guide rails,,,,the way we decide if the car is covered is by whine noise,rattle noise,broken pieces of timing chain guide,,,how before we get the extended warranty that is hard to say,,,it all depends on the legal side of the lawsuit Im sorry to say. (with CAS) Hi bmw technician. No one knows what this CDA904 code means. Example: P1055 Hex Codes are typically given by more advanced scanners. 61 00 006 WT Performing vehicle diagnosis test Last question- if it is a failing timing chain- is this a something best repaired in a couple weeks, or do I have a few months. Had mechanic put on Autel code reader diagnostics and got 10 or so codes relating to things such as the dinamic stability control, fuel pump. Ok,,,,no the sprocket does not have to be in a special position,,,,you have to lock down both camshaft with special tool,,,engine on TDC,,,,you have to tighten the chain tensioner and then you can tighten both vanos unit,,,you should be able to hand turn over the engine to TDC and lock down the camshafts again with the tool and you should be fine after that. I have a 2013 N20 engine in my X3 and want to remove the actuators to either clean or replace. Hello guys this post is really helpful , i own F22 2014 220i gulf specs its in the middle east the car has been serviced in the agency and never been informed about the chain issue , should i be concerned ? Neither the VANOS units nor the solenoids have been replaced. Thanks. So temperatures make difference. 2013 X3 N20 28i. Ive been told by dealership that timing chain is tight and has passed their test. This documentation is not necessary when part of an approved Technical Service repair procedure; 2: 12A701 Catalytic converter downstream oxygen sensor, electrical fault: circuit short to battery (+) be claimed with separate labor operations under the defect code listed above; refer to KSD2. Ok Ill do that. What symptoms and codes might you get if your timing chain had failed? https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014 2011 BMW 535i [0.00] 535i drivertrain malfunction. The last oil change was two years ago but only 2200 miles were driven. But the list post on this forum shows E84 X1 xDrive28i with N20 is a recall! The spark plug have nothing to do with this problem,,,,they would cause misfires,,,I would think you should get some kind of signal from camshaft angle,,,,are you sure everything is plugged in correctly, Hello, My exhaust cam is retarding to the most far point , I time the engine with kit, locking crank, cam shaft and vanos. F025-13-07-506 for the F25 What are related problems? bimmerfest.com is not in any way affiliated with Bayerische Motoren Werke AG. Car start very well but no power and check engine light on code po52b. But the solutions havent worked for me. Replace the solenoid that the code followed. The BMW Certified Pre-Owned Limited Warranty applies to BMW CPO vehicles that are still The oil filter element appears to collapsed / sucked in at the center. Even if the engine is warm it still gives these same fault codes. I was told by a mechanic that the engine was done, simply by information from a scan. The old oil filter was stuck onto the basket. also by any chance would you know the torque specs for this bolts? thanks, You might want to look at the timing chain on a N20,,,that can cause a lot of different problem, Your email address will not be published. 1d2404 Map thermostat, activation, line disconnection A forum community dedicated to BMW owners and enthusiasts. Could this be the timing chain? Reprogram the vehicle ISTA/P 2.50.4 or higher. Do you think it has to do something with the timing belt. Note that the desired angle was constant. He believes that its not enough oil pressure in the tensioner therefore is not tight as it should be. (not including CAS) Its hard to say what the problem is without see the car and performing some test,,,but it doesnt sound good when the low oil pressure light came on,,,sound like something major happened internal inside the engine. The car has 176,000 kilometers or roughly 110,000 miles. They unlock only when oil pressure is applied. 2D54 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Non-adjustable Then I changed the exhaust cam gear and the solenoid. My 320i with N20 engine have problem with light accelerator or cruise on hightway, about 1.100-1450 rpm.Engine noise u u u like weve a drone around and with little vibration on steering. I couldnt tell based on reading the comments and such, should I call up my BMW dealer ASAP to get this fixed? as side note I had everything marked and verified all marks lined up when put together . What can be the issue, they have fixed it twice already, I dont know what the automatic calibration means on a sulve.,,,on this P3195 code that isnt a factory code so I dont know what it means,,,you said BMW fixed the radiator what did they do to the radiator,,,,did they replace it,,,,you could have a t-stat issue causing a temperature problem with the radiator,,,or a water pump issue,,,,I need BMW codes,,, not P codes. Example: 180101 or 1B9308 or 30FF Enter fault code Emissions Standard One or more of the following faults is stored in the 130f11 Hey, I have a 2014 BMW 428i (F32 with an N20 engine) it is just under 70k around 61,000 I believe and it looks like it was manufactured in 9/2013. Sorry for the confusion, I understand you have the N20 engine,,,,what Im saying on the N20 engine the vans unit failing is not a common problem like the N51,,,,,on the N20 engine there are no replacement bolts for the vanos unit not like the N51. F10 It cannot be timing. Did you hear anything like this before? During highway driving the car drives fine. Suddenly the half yellow engine light came on and was telling me that reduced engine power bla bla. A service advisor at a reputable independent repair shop was concerned about the brief rattle/stutter (5 second mark) in this video upon ignition. Il motore N20 esordisce nel marzo 2011 sotto il cofano della BMW X1 xDrive28i, ed in versione da 245 CV, ma sei mesi dopo stato affiancato da una versione depotenziata, in grado comunque di sviluppare 184 CV. I manually crank engine over few time but after start it always goes retarded on exhaust cam shaft. Got it replaced for half of the price in warranty, consider also the timing chain replace if needed. My engine is N52 The timing was checked several times after installing the new chain. Or anything else you have come across? This TC issue really is so unfortunate, at a time when BMWAG is behind upstart like Tesla and old foes like Audi. 3. It is really a shame that BMW does not communicate on the subject, especially since here in Europe the problem is not repeated while in the United States it seems widespread. I personally know of one person that had a total loss on their X1 engine in Saskatchewan back in 2016 before BMW Canada acknowledged a widespread issue with the timing chain on the N20. Also how does a dealerships diagnose if a vehicle is eligible for extended timing chain warranty? test drove car, get a few codes. I still have under 70k miles and not reached 7 years. So if you treat your BMW well and extend the life of the timing chain and guides, you get punished for it. Note that ISTA/P will automatically reprogram and code all programmable control modules that do Problem is, mine arent locked. I have a 2013 528xi. It possible a software issue,,,we have seen that before. When retrieving BMW check engine light codes with an OBD II scan tool, proceed as follows: 1. Im more concerned with the multiple vanos codes which happened after the fact. My daughters 2013 survived. To set the timing properly you have to be sure the Vanos units are locked its end position, so its moving 1:1 with the camshaft. This time the desired angle was not a constant as in the previous tests. The production date of the car was 2015-11-17. The fuel pump tank pressure is good when i check but when i read the data for fuel rail its very low and drop right back to 0.. Dont they use the same spec N20 engine just with a slight bump in power for the 28i version? N20 cylinder block is made of aluminum with two balance shafts and steel-plated cylinders. The engine is running rough at idle. Other Repairs Two questions: Should I be concerned about the timing chain/guides issue in her vehicle? 131401 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Non-adjustable What's even more exciting about the N20 engine is that this four-cylinder engine is capable of generating a stunning power of 240 HP and a sizzling torque of 260 lb-ft. I've tested the soleniods and they are both good. However I did pay out of pocket to replace by valve cover gasket at a BMW dealership 2 years ago. E84 and E89 has reduced power output. Thanks for any input. It has the N26 engine, factory warranty has expired. Yann Wehrling, vice-prsident de la rgion le-de-France, charg de la Transition cologique, et Patrice Leclerc, maire de Gennevilliers et Prsident du groupe Front De Gauche la . BMW INTAKE VANOS ACTUATOR SOLENOID LOCATION REPLACEMENT EXPLAINED F30 F31 F32 F33 F34 428i 328i 320i 420i 418i 318i 316iIf you are trying to find where the i. Code 131501 returned. Is the fact that my vehicle is not on your list reassuring? So I have an US 2013 BMW sdrive28i with 109k miles build date 02/2013. I have a f10 2013 528i x drive with 105k miles on it , The engine makes a rattling noise when cold and its not as loud when the car warms up but when driving at around 1-25 mph their is a whining noise coming from the engine. The short version of this story is that the car is working now. The details of the settlement if approved by court will extend timing chain and oil pump drive chain to 8 years/100000 miles(which ever comes first). F31 which consists of the last 7 digits of the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). In US the N20/N26 timing chain extended limited warranty is 7 years/70000 miles, so what is extended coverage available in your country? Yes go to the dealership and tell them about the issue and the bulletin. Thanks, The charge pressure fault is probably due to the the vanos fault,,,,it looks like you replaced all the general stuff already and you are sure the timing is correct,,,,,you said the engine had low water damage what does that mean,,,is it possible the exhaust camshaft is binding,,,,you might want to check the exhaust camshaft journal caps. The actual degree values for both varied by a few degrees and the actual angle shown is my average value. I used my scope when inserting the crank pin holder and i assumed the hole in the flywheel closest to cams at tdc was the locking point, Is this correct? Hello question I have 428xi n26 sulev f32 and I was looking at my key reader report and where it says Software version/updates section: I-level current integration level of vehicle F020-19-07-539. Symptoms when timing chain fails is engine wont start,,,engine wont turn over,,,,have your mechanics see if he can turn the motor over by hand with a breaker bar on the front crank bolt. I know there has been a lot of people complaining to BMW NA about this problem,,,I think there is a case where people are trying to sue BMW over the timing chain issue,,,one of the problems is none of the other BMW have this problem only the N20-N26. Or turbo charger, Do you guys fix the issue ?! Nic. New chain and guides and so far no problems. If one of the applicable faults listed above is stored in the DME then continue with the Dash lights up with transmission gear exclamation point and lift ramp both in yellow. Do you think is this something related to eccentric shaft sensor? Recently purchased 2104 BMW X1 28i x drive. 120308 charge air pressure 130E20 Jake 6,848 satisfied customers I replaced my timing chain and oil chain on my 2012 BMW carlosbosch satisfied customers Daniel 131401 vanos exhaust cold start not controllable Hey guys, I have a 2014 m235i and at work today I started my car and I got this code. F30 / F31 / F32 / F33 / F34 / F36 (2012 - current). if you can direct me in the right path I will really appreciated . My car, BMW 320i 2014 with N20 Engine, with 33K Miles on the clock, is just broke down with a drive train error. Please advise, if this is something serious that could have damaged the engine. No car manufacturer is going to tell you the problems with their car,,,they are just worried about the sale of that car,,,,not what is wrong with that car. or can I slowly unscrew the center valve and insert a new one? 96K views 5 years ago The BMW N54 and N52 typically have the most issues with this. It idles fine and sounds much better than before. Any suggestions on what to check on the Vanos for the 131501 code? not have the latest software. Any comments/tips on both, car only has 49k miles. F34 131501 vanos inlet cold start not controllable and 120408 boost pressure control cut off pressure rise blocked 2011 x3. WARRANTY INFORMATION Owned Program. I reside in Alberta as well. The VANOS cold start faults would reappear within 15 seconds of startup. The boost disable was cleared by itself. Labor operation code 00 00 006 is a Main labor operation. Required fields are marked *. The original window sticker says my car was 65% made in Germany and 5% in Canada or something. The oil temperature was 90 C. Once the car started without faults the oil level check worked fine. Hi bmwtechnician, Since the picture was taken by me not by the dealer. 2D61 VANOS, exhaust, control fault, position not reached If one of the applicable faults listed above is not stored in the DME fault memory then continue https://youtu.be/Frj0a82XfDo, He did not notice any whining- but do you hear whining in this second video? Hi I live in California and im planning to buy a used 2015 bmw x3 xDrive28i (F25) then I saw the this post. 2008 BMW 128I [0.00] Check engine light DTC 131501. troubleshooting with the applicable test plan for the fault(s) stored. Dealer wants almost 300 euro to check the timing chain. Also that didnt make a difference and fault is still on outlet side. Checked the Camshaft Journal Caps. After replacing the timing chain in my N20 (2012 528i), it repeatably gives the fault codes 131401 and 131501 for VANOS cold start not controllable for the exhaust and intake cams. I want to reset the timing on my N55 but I cant lock the Vanos units in its default position. Connect scan tool to the 16-pin data link connector (DLC) located underneath the steering column. I assume the tensioner is operated by oil pressure and its normal to feel some slack when the engine is not running? Im wondering do I need to have the 7/70 warranty to get BMW covered on this timing chain issue? to performing repairs, please see SI B01 02 11 for Emissions Warranty Coverage and refer to the The auto repair labor rates vary by location, your vehicle's make and model, and even your engine type. The Service Engine Soon lamp and Engine Malfunction warning are illuminated, and the vehicle 112,000 km / 7 years. I bought a BMW F20 118i with N13 1.6 engine. As there is a known TSB and the solenoid is VVT. There has to be a reason. You think BMWNA would cover timing chain here if brought in for inspection? https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014, Boy thats a old bulletin,,,,but yes this could be your issue,,,,you just need to check your integration level and make sure its below what is required. Here is a video of whats happening today. Also after cold start also misfire error pops up. Good day. Engine Hi Im planning to buy a second hand 2015 BMW X3 xDrive 28i (F25) and its about 65000 miles now. hi, Code 132408 Vanos Exhaust Intake camshaft not locking at start up Reply Quote. Looked at my timing chain and there seems to be some play in the chain. Hi, I own a 2012 BMW X1 that recently developed a timing chain problem. 'nhUO}gFXA}_+7"F.\ztVw@%/`>vny#(`YN:2ed_zI.. It appears to be a relatively simple, .5 hr swap. It currently has 165,000 km without any chain problems. Stop and starting the car there is no difference. BMW wont tell us why some models have problems and some dont,,,,it could be because of horsepower,,,,,you could replace tensioner if you want,,,,,it wouldnt hurt anything, Thanks for the reply i think its 220i and 320i uses the exact engine N20 my F22 2014 car now has 105000kms since its not in the list , in general what do u advice me to do shall i just keep my ears alerted to sounds or u advise me to take to service center and maintain the chain so i can save the engine ? Today I changed Chain tensioner as preventative maintenance, but soon I start the car, I got Drivetrain Malfunction. i am getting the following error codes on my 2013 BMW X3 (107k miles): The exhaust cam had the following desired/actual degrees: 0.6/-9, 20/17, 11/9, 20/17. Valvetronic Actuator Replacement Kit Includes actuator, actuator gasket and valve cover gaskets Brand: ES#: 4164466 Mfg#: 11377603979KT5 Qty: Availability: In Stock $243.84 Add to Cart Free Shipping on orders $59 and up Valvetronic Actuator Replacement Kit Includes actuator, actuator gasket and valve cover gaskets Brand: ES#: 4164462 Mfg#: he said, he need to take out the valve cover to check the timing chain, tensioner and cam shaft. Its a possibility that the motor could be saved,,,,but it would take a lot of money and time,,,there has been some people of done their own DIY and fixed the engine depending on what is damaged,,,if it is just the timing chain,rails , oil pump and hopefully the bearing arent bad and no damage to the pistons and valves the repairs might not be that bad,,,,you have to realize you have 176k miles which is a lot.,,,and what about the transmission is that next to fail? It revs fine but with the turbo disabled a drive around the block is at a pedestrian pace. Thank you in advance. Hello and thank you for your various articles on the n20 engine. designates changes to this revision 176000km is only 110000 miles, that is a shame that such a nice compact power house(N20/N26 that is) can go bust in such young age, BMW really should step up and recall all the affected N20/N26 with defective parts. I want to make sure this issue is fixed. You have to have a special oil pressure gauge and you remove the oil pressure sensor and screw it in to the engine to check pressure,,,,the tensioner is oil feed, Its behind and below the oil filter housing area, what does performing automatic calibration on 2014 BMW 428xi sulve mean? When the VANOS units were removed there was no visible trash. Thanks! Cleared the code, and restarted the engine, within . 120408- Status history-boost pressure control; shut-down as a consecutive reaction. Exhaust Camshaft: Installation faulty. I have 2013 BMW X1 xdrive28i with 79,000 km on it. If a control module was working properly and/or had no related faults stored prior to vehicle Turn the ignition on. I would like the tackle the Vanos issue first and go from there. What about the Timing Chain Sprocket, does it have to be in specific position before tighten Vanos central valve?! Learn how your comment data is processed. But one of the passages might have had some trash in it. Your really helpful : So how do I know when its time for a update. Most likely you have broken timing chain guides and the whole timing set will need to be replaced. 131908-VANOS inlet: cold start, Position not reached. Page 4 of 4 due to a low oil pressure and chain noise.now iam having inlet and outlet vanos dtc . Is it possible to remove the snap ring and take out the VANOS spool valve, spring and check ball for cleaning with the VANOS unit in the engine? But when I try to test VANOS data via ISTA it gives no data, only 0. PROCEDURE procedure outlined below. programming and it fails to program correctly or requires initialization, this additional work must No turnover on start at all. It all depends are your production date of your car,,,you can also tell the dealer about this bulletin. Would there be a difference between our 2 continents with regard to production? Thank You very much for your help. We rebuilt it. Yes it does not say no signal. is there a chance that he is wrong? E84 and E89: I dont remember which hole it is in the flywheel,,,I do know once you have it in the correct hole you can not turn the motor back or forward that when you have found the correct TDC,,,,you should also make sure cylinder 1 piston is up. The BMW Certified Pre-Owned Limited Warranty applies to BMW CPO vehicles that are still Im not really sure its my 2012 BMW 320i (F30) probably produced from 05/2012 affected by this or not as its did not show in the list. Ive got a 2014 320i with 36,000 miles. The first start up gave many more codes but I have cleared the fault codes several times and these two appear along with the consequence fault code of 120408 Charge pressure control off. I have changed timing chain on 2013 BMW 328i xdrive this is the codes Im getting 131501 120408 131908 . I can of course record my engine startup if thatll let you know the case). 120408: Boost pressure control, cut off pressure rise blocked. Good day. Today I drove it 20 miles to several stores and it worked fine. We purchased it from a BMW dealership, they didnt mention any potential issues with the timing chain components. I have a SULEV vehicle so its definitely an N20 engine. F30 This way I dont have to set up any timing if I do it one at the time. check out the. N20/N26 is an attemptof BMWAG to reclaim 4-cylinder glory from the past, e.g. Thats important to know for later. 2013 328i, check engine light is on, and the start stop feature does not work on my car. Hello there, loving your info. Also can sparkplugs have any influence to this situation? What codes would come up when the timing chain fails? Hi,,,yes your car is not on the list but that doesnt mean that it still has this problem,,,and since your car is 4 wheel drive the chain is not being used more it is the same on both 4 wheel drive and rear wheel drive,,,,now if you want to keep the vehicle it is a good idea to replace the timing chain and rails and oil pump chain for safety reasons. Whether the engine is cold or warm, the VANOS faults appear within 15 seconds of startup. The hardcore BMW fan base could not help but fall in love with the spritely performance offered by this upgraded engine. BMW replaced the motor and shipped it to us in AZ from Virginia. Then I used ISTA and diagnosed the exhaust side. SHAME ON BMW!!!!! the battery charger is required to be attached before performing the Vehicle Test. What me be causing this? 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