I thought that was too much and got a Winchester 70 for $175. that Mrs. Although its often used, the .30-30 is not an ideal elk cartridge. I thought I was good with an AR10 and a bolt action. The Big Horn Armory M89 Spike Driver, chambered to .500 S&W, is another big-bore lever action. After hundreds of rounds while off work for months the trigger still goes creep creep creep bang and it shoots dependable 3.5 to 4 inch groups at one hundred. Neither were super accurate , I have heard some BLR s really hammered but mine was just OK. Do some of the smaller cartridges have weak ejection in the Henry? Marlin saw a new, untapped market when they brought out their .444 Marlin and a new Model 95 .45-70 and followed up with the .450 Marlin. Moving forward I have cleaned, lubricated, and hand worked this LR action a thousand times. The gun did much better with other rounds. I used to have a BLR. I havent noticed any corrosion issues with MC-7. Similar to the traditional Henry lever guns, the Long Ranger employs the proven in-hammer sliding transfer bar as a safety. Of course, yourbodys geometry will determine how you set the gun. Better yet, dont have kids, or a wife!! The Long Ranger's checkering wraps around the grip area in one panel and wraps around the fore end in another panel. The advantage of a detachable magazine is there is no need to cycle cartridges remaining in the magazine through the action to empty the rifle. Posts: 1,128. tn. I believe that both the Lehigh Defense Company and Underwood Ammunition Company have been producing some of the most significant breakthroughs in ammunition design and loadings to date. I really like the blr, Ive shot them, Ive hunted with them and they are great guns. It was hard to handle with gloves on when hunting in cold weather. Theres no wiggling or odd angles to get the magazine to sit or release. The two rifles share a somewhat similar profile. If your resolution was dont buy any guns this yearway to set yourself up to fail. There are way too many reviews showing ejection issues and poor triggers. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. So, is there a market for a BLR with no iron sights, that costs more? It comes with a beautifully grained walnut stock with a matte clearcoat. Firearms dont get much more iconic than John Moses Brownings legendary Auto-5 semi-auto shotgun, affectionately called the Humpback for its distinctive drop at the rear of the receiver. Another difference is that the Long Rangers magazine seats flush with the bottom of the receiver. By signing up you agree to Guns.com's I'm a big fan of Henry rifles and the company. check out the. http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showt-shooter-too! Overall, I think the Long Ranger succeeds in providing whitetail hunters with a rifle who want bolt-action accuracy and chamberings, but in a lever gun. And as has already been stated gunsmiths that can work on a BLR trigger are very few. Browning lever in 243-trigger was 7 lbs, never thought of taking it to a gunsmith, too many guys wanted to buy the rifle due to accuracy, 60g Sierra HP For a bolt action man to go to a lever gun can be tough, when the trigger pull is over 4 lbs. The Single Shot is a quality firearm but I really dont want a break action .308. (I love this brotherhood shit, its a lesser substitute then the military but still scratches the itch)) and while one guy helped the other went to his truck and brought in match quality reloads. Henrys definitely marketing this rifle hard. SMOOTH action. I have the Savage 99c in 308 and it has always been my go to rifle. Ive never seen a lever action that wasnt accurate enough for 150-yard shots at deer. The geared action uses a six-lug rotary bolt, and like other Henry firearms, are made in America of US-components, including beautiful American Walnut stocks. But if you have the two side-by-side, fealt their balance and their actions and compare your groups theres really no question that the American-made Henry is a better product. If anything, its better. Model Number: H014-308 Consequence knows about. And this one is pricey enough to ping the radar. I run a patch with Shooters Choice twice a day thru the bore until the green color is gone. For those of you who preferiron sights, Henry makes a version with sights included. It was the first successful repeating action, and in the 160 years of repeating rifles, almost all lever-action designs have been American. Also, Im partial to the pistol grip stock and I like the BLRs trigger travelling with the lever (no pinching), although the trigger isnt the greatest needs a trip to Neil Jones, I think. Publisher, Kevin Steele is with Brett Marquardt from Streamlight Inc. discussing the new Streamlight Pro Tac 2.0, the latest edition in the Pro Tac series. Although this comparison is based on short action, blued steel, solid frame carbines chambered for .308 Winchester, the BLR Lightweight is also available with a long (.30-06 length) action and in stainless, rather than blued, steel. I looked it over very well and excellent craftsmanship never came to mind, not when comparing to the wood of other similar priced satin walnut firearms. Lastly for 5.56 NATO weapons they sell cartridges they have made with Hornadys V-Max bullet design in both 50 and 55 grain weights. Turnbull also offers the .470 Turnbull, scaled down to fit the Marlin action. But turning theplan into reality wasnt easy. With their smooth receivers and no bolt handle sticking out the side, these lever actions are more comfortable to carry in the hand, or slung over the shoulder, than a bolt action or autoloading rifle. Its Henrys long-range lever-action intended for shots that are 200 yards or more where you want a scope, not iron sights, especially in a hunting situation. Accuracy * * * * * I havent taken it to the range yet but fit and finish are great and I really like the trigger. This is priced right where it should be for the features and quality. the theory was the cheap Ammo (Xmetal targets) and hypothesized the shoulder was to far forward and the bolt could not fully close . You should investigate its design how it is made and how it functions to make sure you believe it will work for your situation. One of the things I really like about Imperato is that he is unquestionably a true American Patriot. They use magazines that dont line the cartridges up point-to-primer. and .300 Win. OMG what in the world does that even mean? Except it is. Barrel lengths include 20- and 22-inches, and all barrels are free-floated. Gear & Gadgets on the Texas Fishing and Outdoors Show, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.3. I own sometwo dozen bolt guns. I wish Id gone to the website before buying thoughI didnt realize that they were going to be selling a version with iron sights or Id have waited. The Long Ranger stock has a slightly longer length of pull (1/4") and a lot more pitch down, although the drop at comb feels similar. The gun shoulders naturally while the generous rubber recoil pad soaks up kick and has enough grip to keep the gun on your shoulder for fast follow-up shots on big, tough bucks. The Grade 1 black walnut stock is given a high gloss finish that brings out what grain and figure the stock possesses and matches the highly polished and blued barrel and gloss black anodized receiver. Street price for these is right at $800. This gun cost twice what my BLR did (20 years ago) and feels like half the gun so far. Remarks are appreciated. 1 MOA from a lever gun isnt bad at all. I tend to look at firearms as once-in-a-lifetime investments and save accordingly. The .44-40 certainly is not. Ive never had much interest in their other items. However, as with power and range, adequate accuracy depends on what you need. I have had the Henry in 45-70 and no issues. I had spoken to Henrys management and I understand a large loop lever will be coming. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The lever-action is Americas unique contribution to firearms design. Affordability meets reliability in the budget-friendly Marlin Model 336. Unlike traditional lever action rifles that rely on a quarter cock hammer notch safety, the BLR cannot be forced to fire by a strong blow on the hammer, even if it breaks internal parts. Henry, on the other hand, actually publishes a wonderful video on their website showing how to disassemble and reassemble the LR, which shows how the small parts can be removed for replacement. This may be a great rifle but it is awfully expensive. Okay, Im not crazy about the look of scopes on traditional lever actions, but you cant hunt if you cant see. At only seven lbs, with a 20 barrel, this really is a walk-all-day and shoot-all-day rifle. Henry has a better trigger, wood and I like the way it cycles better(smoother). Epic 22 Pocket Pistol: The Beretta 71 Jaguar. I have owned one or another M71/.348 since I was in my 20s, often used for hogs and black bearseven bison. Before actual design work was started, the Henry team debated a rear locking bolt design, along the lines of the Savage 99, versus a front locking bolt design of the Winchester Model 88 type. Theyre both useless, unlike your guns, whom you can always rely on!! The typically small ejection port of most autoloading and side-ejection lever actions makes getting a cartridge into the chamber difficult. Thanks to that easy cycling action, thatweld is easy to maintain. I sent the rifle back to Henry, and they took care of it. The Henry may be more "practical," but the Browning's finish is prettier and very durable. Specifications: Henry Long Ranger Rifle Action Type: Lever Action Caliber: .223 Remington and 5.56 NATO Capacity: 5 rounds Length: 40.5 Barrel Length: 20 Round Length of Pull: 14 Rate of Twist: 1:9 Weight: 7 lbs. This makes the barrel is fully free-floating instead of using a forend tip pressure point. The group with that round was also almost twice as large as some others. This is to Shannon Armitage. A smooth working action is a Henryhallmark, and this one is no different. Marlin is back and selling new variations of their 94, 336, and 95 lever actions as fast as they can make them. Other manufacturers have simply designed their lever-action rifles around pointed bullet cartridges in the first place. The Henry Long Ranger .308/7.62 NATO caliber rifle supplied sports a 4 shot detachable magazine that fits flush in the receiver. Because of the transfer bar safety, the Long Ranger is safe to carry with the chamber loaded and the hammer down. I would lean towards it, especially since it has a free floated barrel. Lever-action rifles have traditionally suffered ballistically from things such as the strength of their designs and cartridges for which theyre chambered. I wasnt kidding about buying it. One round in the chamber and four in the mag of a quick shooting lever action rifle is serious medicine for any big game . If you want to see how serious Imperato is about American-made, look up the Henry Made In America commercial on YouTube. Instead of a traditional lifter system, like on most lever guns, the Long Ranger strips cartridges from the top of the box magazine just like a bolt-action rifle. Id clean it from the muzzle rather than attempt to take it apart and get the gears aligned again on its rack & pinion system. I wont buy a long Ranger, not at a $900 price tag. Any gun with a sole intended purpose of long-range shots might have a 2-pound trigger and a 24-inch heavy barrel, says Imperato, but I wouldnt want to walk around the woods with that gun.. Henry's new Long Ranger may change your perception of lever-action guns. I love the Long Ranger, but I would definitely recommend going into a store and holding them. the Blr has been done, I saw the 338 for sale for just yesterday. Can the action handle the pressures of some of the compact mag rounds? Several big game hunting rifles from major manufacturers, not just custom shops, come with MOA or sub-MOA accuracy guarantees. I don't have a protractor, but I would estimate lever throws in the 60-70 degree range. Barrel lengths are most often either 20- or 24-inches. JWTaylor, your article here has pretty much convinced me that this will be the gun for me. I felt the Henry was smoother and at least for me cycled and fed better. I was expecting 1.5 to 2MOA. The rifle is very accurate, more accurate than the blr, wich i also have. Five Timeless Hunting Classics. Threaded barrel The Long Ranger's out of the box trigger pull is about a pound lighter than the BLR's trigger. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Armed with new prescription shooting glasses, I can again use aperture sights comfortably to about 100 yards, open sights somewhat less. Essentially a remanufacture of the John Browning design, the BHA action is shorter than the 1886, and longer than the 1892 (thus the in-between 89 designation). From my experience and others. You can do it with the Midwest Industries Marlin MLOK handguard, one of the Henry X lever guns, a Henry Long Ranger, even a Mare's Leg though like the Tac-14 vs. a Remington 870 it's not going to be as effective as a Henry Big Boy X Model or Big Boy Steel Side Gate. Had some issues loading the clip, and cbambering rounds. Deer season is coming soon, and I cant wait to get back into the woods with my lever actions. Publisher of Petersen's HUNTING magazine, Kevin Steele is at the Steiner Optics booth with Alberto Corbetta to discuss the Predator 4 and Predator 8. I noticed other comments. All rights reserved. The disadvantage is that the magazine may be separated from the rifle and lost, rendering the rifle a single shot that is usually very difficult to load, due to the yawning opening left by an absent magazine. There are quite a few reviews and tests out there on the Long Ranger. Remington's Nylon 66 semi-automatic .22 LR rifles have grown from 1950s bargain buys to 21st century collectors darlings. Opinions please and thanks. The Henry receiver is longer than the Browning receiver, but lightly shallower and not quite as wide. Bore scope showed a divet in the barrel, Henry replaced it. A brass round counter set in the receiver was just one of the unique touches. I know its early days, but the wildcat potential could be there. (2) is a barrel break-in proceedure in my near future? 3. 6.5 Creedmoor: nothing beats 120 GMX Superformance in short action. I discovered the Browning BLR and the Henry Long Ranger recently. The BLR's checkering is applied to the grip and fore end in four panels. I learned from a Marlin 1895 that the straight stocks just dont work for me. This appears to be a good solid rifle in the class of box magazine lever guns. For more information: www.henryrifles.com. The lever action does not have a reputation for extreme accuracy, but it depends on the rifle. Pistol-grip buttstock: not an AR abomination, just the swell grip they offer on other rifles. Much to my surprise, they all absolutely adore my Ruger 77/357 bolt gun. More than likey the Henry trigger is better. Such things as the difference in trigger pulls and stock fit may make one or the other easier for an individual shooter to shoot accurately under field conditions (practical accuracy). Why hadHenry departed from itstraditionaltube-fed designs? And a totally redesigned trigger. Never handled a blr or long ranger, so i can't comment on those specifically, but i did deal with henry warranty once. 5 reasons why the HENRY LONG RANGER is the BEST LEVER GUN EVER! I have a 308 blr white gold that just does not want to group consistently, even after a trigger job, really has nothing to do with the trigger traveling with the lever. To me, thats silly. The Henry Wisconsin long range 223 right handed rifle features a lever action, transfer bar safety and a barrel length of 20.0". The Long Rangers stock geometry works for a scoped gun thats meant to be hunted. Shame! The BLR has been in the Browning line for many years and is consequently available in more calibers (a current total of 14, from .223 Rem. Side-eject Marlins have been able to accept scopes for generations, and the Savage 99 was the first factory rifle to be drilled and tapped clear back in the 1950s. They already have some of their guns suppressor ready. I know a couple guys that had the long rangerminute of barn was all they could muster, I just went to look. The hot brass ejects to the right. Add a Vortex rimfire scope and it's a fun to carry and shoot little lever. Never had to send one back cause never had a problem. Both are based on a geared (rack and pinion) lever action that operates a bolt with a rotating, multi-lug head that locks into a barrel extension via cam action when the lever is closed. Can a peep go on this without fooling around with the front sight? Later, Winchesters Model 88, that takes a detachable box magazine, came chambered for cartridges such as the .284 Win. My biggest gripe with the BLR is the tight chamber. I love my BLR, better ammo selection with a box fed lever gun. We lost some great designs, including the Savage 99 and Winchester 88, and sales of traditional lever guns were slipping. The Henry Long Ranger in 6.5 Creedmoor is proof. Profit. Both rifles use two-piece stocks with a butt that terminates in a functional recoil pad. The Long Ranger was introduced in 2016 by Henry Repeating Arms. now the bad side (besides the farting girlfriend, even worse when she Dutch ovens you) on my second shoot I had a terrible time with rounds not seating on the bolt or chambering properly, sometimes locking the lever or not firing when triggered. Aesthetics are a personal matter. I can cycle the Long Rangerwith just my pinky, without any pause. On the other hand, I find the Browning's high gloss wood and metal finish considerably more attractive than the Henry's understated matte receiver and satin stock finish. Working the lever provides a smooth bolt slide in and out of the receiver. Both stocks are adorned with functional, single border, laser cut checkering. The American-made Henry Repeating Arms Long Ranger shoulders fast and points like a stick. The Browning BLR is a lever-action rifle manufactured for Browning Arms Company by Miroku Firearms in Japan and stamped Morgan Utah USA. Pulling the trigger raises the transfer bar as the hammer moves forward, allowing the hammer to hit the firing pin. Marlin tried again in the early 2000s with the .308 and .338 Marlin Express. Then I got new glasses and found another 99 in .300 with a vintage 4X scope. was chosen. They cant keep up with demand and they are expanding capacity to be able to meet the demand for this line. Im glad to see Henrys Long Ranger come out with these issues addressed. One of the true do-it-all affordable rifles. The magazine didnt fit flush and rattled really bad. Their cartridges loaded with this .223 caliber 62 grain Controlled Chaos Bullet claim an initial Muzzle Velocity of around 3100 fps and Muzzle Energy of 1323 ft lbs. It will be hanging above the door real soon. However, used Savage 99s are available and affordable. Unfortunately I havent been to the range with it yet either ( broken leg). There is no comparison. and our Sometimes a bore is rough and that causes it to foul quickly. I sold my BLR twelve years ago, I asked Browning to address these issues but no response. Although there are a number of excellent lever action hunting rifles from several manufacturers that are chambered for traditional rimmed cartridges (.30-30, .25-35, .38-55, .444 Marlin, etc. Thats the long and short of it; the best plan for success and one I rarely see followed. The stock is a american walnut wood and the metal is finished in blued. Both are excellent rifles, but only the Henry is built in the USA, if that is It just comes down to personal preference. Veteran, army medic, proud Texas son. The BLR is the hands down winner. A max load of RL19 and 150 Sierra MK bullets turned it into a tack driver. Great accuracy for a lever action ie for a gun Herr Mauser made obsolete a century ago While any Model 94 will get the job done, its hard not to love the earlier pre-1964 models for their collectability as well as stellar quality. I know I read that at some point but it might be something they've sorted out by now. Petersen's HUNTING Publisher, Kevin Steele is in the CZ booth with Dylan Rice at SHOT Show to talk about CZ 600 Series Trail rifle. The BLR appears to be a bit more nicely finished. I purchased my 2nd 308 because some black face communist dictator made mine illegal. the Long Ranger has a much slimmer profile. The BLR is lighter. (See our series of suggested caliber offerings for the Long Ranger under the "Henry Long Ranger Rifle Information" heading on the Rifle Information index page.) not all BLR`s have bad triggers and with a little ability those triggers clean up and can work alot better too. Ultimately, seeing and thus hitting the target is more important than what youre hitting it with. Either rifle would normally be carried in the field with the chamber loaded and the hammer lowered (to the "quarter cock" position in the case of the BLR and all the way to the frame in the case of the Long Ranger). Thinking now of short magnums like the 6.5 SAUM and 7 WSM especially. Six rotating lugs engage a barrel extension in the last inch of lever travel providing a level of lock-up equal to many bolt-actions. There is only an inconsequential $5.04 difference in their 2017 MSRPs. Great rifle for the whitetails we were after in those days. Henry just announced the Long Ranger in 6.5 Creedmoor. Think about the bullets acting as a firing pin for the cartridge iahesd of it. Though the original Marlin brand sold in 2010, production continues under the Remington Outdoors Family of Brands. More recently, Marlin was out of production for several years. Just a press on the slightly curved bottom of the magazine and an audible and tactile click lets you know its locked in. I thought it would be cool to have a more modern caliber in a lever action rifle. Again, I chose .308 Win. Henry makes a .243 in one main rifle, The Long Ranger. I've also been wanting to buy a more modern .30 caliber gun. This will be # 6. I dont agree with that past presidents policities in many regards, but he was my President and you sullied the office. Henry is renown for the head of the company helping you. Have had a few over the years including a Winchester in .25-35, awesome little gun! A while back I picked up a Savage 99 in .300 Savage with factory aperture sights. With a five-round detachable box magazine, the BLR made it safe and easy to chamber the rifles for pointed or tipped projectiles, opening the door to heavier magnum rounds, including some of the WSMs. Neither has, nor needs, a separate manual safety. Because customers asked for it, Henry GM Andy Wickstrom said, simply enough. I would like a comparison review of Henry Single shot .308/7.6251 to the Henry long Ranger for accuracy. And there are other alternatives, including Big Horn Armorys new Model 89 and some excellent off-shore reproductions of classic designs. More than likey the Henry trigger is better. This right at the top fo the BLR list when it comes to elegance. they pay for shipping both ways which is really nice. Both stocks fit me fine and my eye lines up correctly with a scope mounted in low or medium height rings when I bring the rifles to my shoulder. market of gun buyers who arent interested in polymer wonders. The wood-to-metal fit is very good, but not perfect. How do these two rifles stack up to each other? It loaded and unloaded easily, and never gave me any issue locking into the rifle. The model tested wasset up for a scope. Both offer fast repeat shots, should it become necessary. But that hasnt stopped manufacturers from trying to make them better at taking deer over longer distances. and .30-06) and WSM Magnum calibers come with 22" barrels, while the 7mm Rem. First I suggest looking into Lehigh Defenses Controlled Chaos Bullet design if you never have. And you get what you pay for. Because of this, the BLR can be chambered for rounds with pointed tip Spitzer bullets that would be inappropriate for the tubular magazines more commonly used in lever-action rifles. The current barrel length is 20" for all calibers. I picked one up a few weeks ago from Cabelas. For the accuracy testing, I pulled the 6X fixed scope off and used a Vortex Viper 6-24X scope, set at the 24X setting. If you want to use the rifle for snap shooting or firing from the kneel or off a tree, stick with medium height rings. There is even a stainless/laminated, takedown version of the Lightweight '81 model. However, despite todays hunger for long-range performance, not every North American hunter wants to reach way out there, and many of us dont need to. Delsin Rowe is the main protagonist and playable character, a young Native-American man who later realizes hes a Conduit with special powers. Id use it more, but the top-eject 1886 action is iron sights only, so I have to be careful where I take it. I really like the looks of the Henry, but I do not like a gun that I cannot completely take apart-easily. They wont have sights or spare magazines available until March unfortunately. By todays standards this isnt impressive, but these ballistics have been adequate for deer-size game for 125 years and remain so today. Yeah, me too. I hope they get around to a pistol grip sooner rather than later. Thats a five-shot group from 100 yards, all bagged up (as were theothers). Perhaps Sako should reintroduce the Finnwolf. I hunt elk in the jungles of the northwest , and it be the ultimate bush gun . After five rounds, I measured the group, then continued the testing with other rounds. Not everybody can afford to pay over $1,000 for a rifle. Mine is in .308 and will kick empties as well as my Model 88 or Browning BLR had. The standard BLR Lightweight comes with a pistol grip stock and a Schnable fore end, but there is also a BLR Lightweight '81 model with a straight hand stock and a fore end secured by a carbine band. I'm not a fan of 6.5 because I don't see any use for it, .270 is technically better than 30-06 past 300 yards but the difference is something like 2 inches in bullet drop. The stock has a straight wrist, though Imperato says Henry is evaluating the possibility of introducing a pistol-grip version.